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  • AndresK
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    Los rehenes que serían liberados son más o menos 50, mayoritariamente niños y mujeres embarazadas y de más edad. O eso se espera.

  • Sí, al parecer ese fue el trato, entre Israel y Hamas, una pausa de 5 días para el efecto, pero monitoreando desde el aire, fin prevenir sorpresas.

  • Pero creo que va a tomar más días, por cuestiones logísticas.
  • dragon
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    Éste youtuber está entrevistando uno a uno a los héroes y sobrevivientes del 7 de octubre.

    El entrevistado estaba en la fatídica fiesta, recuenta literalmente paso a paso re-visitando los sitios que él vivió.

    En su canal hay mas historias.

    Dar clic en settings, subtítulos, autogenerar escoger español o spanish.



  • dragon
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    Dos héroes mas se rencuentran con la gente que salvaron.

    Padre e hijo reciben llamada de la hija que está en refugio y les lanzan gran..., que la rescaten.

    Salen a toda v en el carro y la policía tiene bloqueos, pero mienten y pueden pasar, mientras tanto siguen recibiendo mensajes que se apuren...

    Pero en la zona de la fiesta les empiezan a salir jóvenes, mujeres, gente herida que los salve, evacuandolos.

    Debe decidir si salva la hija que lo espera desesperada o la gente. Deciden ...

  • skiringsan
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    AndresK escribió : »
    Los rehenes que serían liberados son más o menos 50, mayoritariamente niños y mujeres embarazadas y de más edad. O eso se espera.

    según dicen han ofrecido 3 presos por rehen, y un dia extra al alto al fuego por cada 10 rehenes liberados.
  • AndresK
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    A ese paso y van a hacer promoción o "Black Friday"....
  • dragon
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    Hay 13 rehenes listos para liberar.

    Siguen negociando, el viernes debe iniciar el intercambio.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/israel-hamas-war-live-updates-rcna126373
  • Centauro
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    Capturan a director y médicos de la plana mayor del hospital shifa, por complicidad con Hamas.
  • dragon
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    Centauro escribió : »
    Capturan a director y médicos de la plana mayor del hospital shifa, por complicidad con Hamas.

    Lo dije atrás que todos se cubrían con la misma cobija.

    Los secuestrados entraron al hospital rodeados de 5 hombres armados, ahora no aparece nadie.

    Se puede ser imparcial por ser doctor, pero NO complice.
  • dragon
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    Editado Thu, 23 November 2023 #1692
    Liberarán 12 mujeres o niños al día hasta 50. Por cada 10 rehenes un día mas de pausa.

    Según PBS, televisión pública de USA.

    Dicen los de H que solo puede entregar 50 porque es posible que el resto estén en poder de otros grupos, personas interesadas en mujeres o bebés, o en grupos criminales.

  • dragon
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    Más imágenes del túnel debajo del Hospital Alshifa.

    Una entrada está en el patio del hospital, la otra sale a una escuela / casa.

    Vía diario Daily mail.

  • dragon
    dragonForista Cabo
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    Capturado de H revela que en cierto momento hubo hasta 100 T en el hospital Alshifa.

  • dragon
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    Inició oficialmente el cese al fuego.

    Por BBC reportan disparos esporádicos, pero la artillería y Fuerza aérea de la IDF han respetado el cese al fuego.

    Se espera que 13 rehenes san liberados, la IDF va a liberar prisioneros, pero de eso hay muy poca información.

  • dragon
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    Reportan que al menos 90 camiones han entrado a Gaza con suministros.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67504657
  • dragon
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    Experto opina sobre que van a hacer los de H durante el cese al fuego.

    Parece que estará prohibido el vuelo de drones, por lo tanto intentarán mover tropas, re aprovisionarse, intentar emboscar a la IDF.

  • dragon
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    Israeli media are reporting that a group of Israeli hostages kidnapped by Hamas in the attacks of 7 October have been handed to the Red Cross in Gaza.

    Reportan en Israel que los primeros rehenes fueron entregados a la cruz roja (puede ser la media luna roja), via BBC.
  • dragon
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    Vía BBC.

    Los rehenes liberados están en Egipto y serán pasados a Israel pronto.
  • dragon
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    El Residente de Palacio solo grita por los hijos de los T, de los hijos y nietos de judios, algunos descendientes de sobrevivientes del Holocausto, esos no son importantes para sus políticas y Egos.

    Acá la lista de los 13 liberados judíos (mujeres y niños) además de 10 tailandeses, y un filipino:

    Yafa Adar, 85

    Adar is a founder of the Nir Oz kibbutz and is the oldest person to be taken hostage on October 7. A video of her being taken into Gaza on a golf cart driven by Hamas militants went viral shortly after her abduction, said the Hostages and Missing Families Forum. Kibbutz Nir Oz was devastated during the attack and more than a quarter of the community was killed or remains missing. “Her eldest grandson, Tamir Adar, a 38-year-old father-of-two, was also abducted, and is still held hostage,” the Nir Oz spokesperson said.

    Margalit Moses, 77

    The mother of three and grandmother of 10 is a retired biology teacher. She is also a cancer survivor who has diabetes, “fibromyalgia, and takes many additional medications,” said the Hostages and Missing Families Forum in Israel. The nature lover planned on traveling to Mozambique this winter.

    Hana Katzir, 76

    She is also a member of Kibbutz Nir Oz and the wife of the late Rami Katzir, 79, who was killed in their home. “A mother of three and grandmother of six. Her son Elad, 47 years old was also kidnapped and is still in Gaza,” said Nir Oz’s spokesperson.

    Adina Moshe, 72

    The retired educator and Nir Oz resident is a mother of four and grandmother of 12. Her husband David (Sa’id) Moshe was killed in their home on October 7.

    Ruth Munder, 78

    The Nir Oz resident, who is a retired hairdresser and seamstress, was abducted along with her husband, her daughter Keren and her only grandson, Ohad. Her son, Roee, was killed on October 7, the Nir Oz spokesperson said. Her 78-year-old husband still remains in Gaza.

    “She met her husband Avraham in the kibbutz… Ruth is a very talented woman, she was the librarian of the kibbutz and the seamstress. She also knits, paints, and sews. She is retired. Ruth attends classes and family trips,” said the Hostages and Missing Families Forum.

    Keren Munder, 54

    The physical education teacher for children with special needs was born and raised in Nir Oz. She was abducted along with her only son, Ohad, and her parents, Ruth and Avraham, said the Kibbutz spokesperson.

    Ohad Munder, 9

    The kibbutz spokesperson for Nir Oz said Munder “came to Nir Oz to visit family” when he was abducted alongside family members.

    Daniel Aloni, 45, and Emilia Aloni, 5

    Daniel Aloni was among three women who appeared in a hostage video released by Hamas late last month. She came to Nir Oz to visit family and was abducted alongside her daughter Emilia. Her sister Sharon Aloni-Cunio and other family members were kidnapped and remain in Gaza, says the Nir Oz spokesperson.

    On the day of the attack, “Daniel sent the last message to her family and said that there are terrorists in their house and was afraid that they would not survive it. Now Daniel and Emilia are on their way to Israel,” the Hostages and Missing Families Forum said in a statement.

    Doron Katz Asher, 34, Raz Asher, 4, Aviv Asher, 2

    Doron visited Nir Oz with her family and was kidnapped with her two daughters, Aviv and Raz, as well as other family members, including Efrat Katz. “They were recorded being taken to Gaza,” said the Hostages and Missing Families Forum. She lives in Ganot Hadar and works as an accountant.

    Her cousin, Dori Roberts, told CNN in October that he received a video posted to social media showing the two women and the girls being taken hostage by militants in the southern Israel kibbutz of Nir Oz. “She looked so horrified, confused and shocked,” he said of his aunt, Efrat, in the video.

    His aunt’s 79-year-old partner and another relative also were taken hostage, Roberts said. “Those endless thoughts about, ‘Where are they? How are they doing? What are they going through every minute of the day?’ That can really drive you insane,” said Roberts.

    Channa Peri, 79

    Peri, who lived in Kibbutz Nirim, immigrated to Israel from South Africa in the 1960s. She worked in a grocery store and is a mother of three – one of whom was murdered on October 7 and another kidnapped. “She has diabetes, and suffers severe vision loss in one of her eyes,” said the Hostages and Missing Families Forum in a statement.

    Further details have not yet been given on the foreign nationals who were released.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/24/middleeast/who-are-the-hostages-released-on-friday-intl/index.html
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